[I don’t do this very often, but this post needs a trigger warning, since it covers a topic that’s impossible to handle without discussing rape.]
I was having curb tacos across the street from the Double Door last Friday with a buddy. Curb tacos, for the record, are regular tacos consumed while sitting on a curb. They aren’t a venereal disease and there’s nothing sexual about the whole thing.[1] It might be a bit soggy, but it’s not sordid.
The Double Door, for those who don’t know, is a Chicago music institution located at the intersection of Milwaukee, North, and Damen in the extremely gentrified Bucktown/Wicker Park area of Chicago. The entire area is Asian fusion restaurants and trendy bars and Starbucks and various things that are magnets for childless people with disposable incomes in their late 20s and early 30s. Last Friday was a bit misty, but it was warm enough that there was a lot of foot traffic and a whole lot of people who apparently thought it was the middle of goddamn summer and dressed accordingly. The upshot of this means there was a veritable smorgasbord of two things: attractive women and short skirts.
So my buddy and I were having a conversation that should have cost me a man card or three, since it was me articulating my various feelings of inadequacy as a human being.[2] He kept stopping to check out women who were walking across the street with their nice legs and shapely buttocks. He also, in the time-honored tradition of men everywhere, made sure to point them out to me.
My answer was always some variation on, “So, what?”
At one point he got mad at me and said, “So why do you keep doing this? Do you think you’re more mature than me or something?”
The answer to that question is “No,” which I tried to articulate, but probably didn’t do so well, since his question didn’t make any sense to me. It would be like if I showed up with my new Mazda and my buddy was like, “That’s nice for you, I guess, but I prefer Hondas,” and I was all, “Why are you telling me my car sucks? Is it because you don’t like gray cars?” I couldn’t answer the question because it wasn’t applicable to the situation. He thought I was judging him. In truth I just didn’t want to be bothered.
Attractive women are nice to look at and all. I’ll accept that premise because I wholeheartedly believe it. For me, however – and this might be something that genuinely only applies to me, I don’t know – seeing an attractive woman isn’t that big of a deal. I could see the most attractive woman in the world walk past me right now and by this time tomorrow I will have forgotten that it happened and gone on to something else. For me it’s not a question of maturity or self-control or superiority so much as it’s a question of utility. If I’m trying to have a conversation and maintain a train of thought someone stopping me to say, “Hey, look at that ass!” isn’t helping.
There’s also a functional point to be made: I’ve made it a point to not think of women as a nice set of legs or a curvy ass or a sweet rack. Does that mean that I can’t see and appreciate such physical features? No, not at all. What it does mean, though, is that I’ve basically deprogrammed my brain from being constantly and casually distracted by the presence of a nice set of legs or a shapely ass. There’s pretty much zero chance I’ll end up striking up a long-term, meaningful relationship with a woman crossing the street half a block down, so I can safely not give a rat’s ass about her shapely ass.
Does that make me weird? Probably. Does it make me more mature than other men? I’m going to say no, since I don’t think that maturity has anything to do with it. That’s a completely different dimension of human attitude than a simple mature/immature continuum.
And yea, verily, do we reach the part of David Wong’s Cracked piece that pissed me the hell off and convinced me to finally pull a bunch of disjointed thoughts together and write about them: “#3. We Think You're Conspiring With Our Boners to Ruin Us.” Um, yeah.
This is a fairly common idea. Way back in the day Amy articulated it to me as, “Women know that if you can get a guy’s blood flowing to the little head he doesn’t have enough to think with the big one.” It’s common knowledge, basically. It’s not even like the idea is regarded as a moral failure or an issue of immaturity. It’s just a value-neutral fact, like the wetness of water or blueness of sky or eastness of sunrise. Give a dude a boner and he won’t be able to think anymore. The goes with the attendant idea that all a woman has to do is flash a little thigh and said dude will get himself a boner.
Okay, so, this is conventional wisdom. It’s generally accepted and considered part of the overall male-female interaction and everyone is just kind of okay with it. Because that means that women get to control men through sex and boys get to be boys and we can all just live happily ever after. Until it comes time to take someone to court on rape charges and everyone shakes their head and says, “Well she shouldn’t have been wearing that short skirt. She was asking for it.”
Then it becomes a problem. But only for those sluts who really should know better, anyway. But that’s okay, too, because obviously they were going out in search of a guy to put his penis into them, so if they were planning on having a penis in them isn’t one penis as good as another, even if the one that happened to end up there belonged to a guy who grabbed her in a hallway and shoved her up against a wall? I mean, seriously. Why should she be picky, since she got exactly what she was after?
And, yeah, David Wong goes all the fuck over this territory, in spite of his protestations to the contrary.
First, you need to understand something about the unique love/hate relationship men have with their penises.
Do you remember that story about police having to free a guy who got his dick stuck while humping a pool filter? Or that other guy who got stuck humping a park bench, or the other guy who got stuck humping a picnic table? Or that judge who got caught jerking off while on the bench listening to testimony?
I, for one, do not have a love/hate relationship with my penis. I neither love nor hate my penis. And I can assure you that I have never gotten anywhere close to getting my dick stuck in a park bench or a public pool because I’m not a fucking dipshit who can’t control myself. I would also be willing to bet that better than 95% of the male gender would completely and totally agree with me on that one. There is as much of a gulf between “a guy who owns a penis” and “a guy who owns a penis and plays with it in public” as there is between “a guy who owns a knife” and “a guy who has stabbed a hobo to death.”
Simply having something that someone else has used in a way that’s frowned upon by society doesn’t mean you have to use it in that same way. The story about the guy who gets penis stuck in vacuum attachment is going to get a hell of a lot more play than the million or so stories every day of guys who used a vacuum and managed to not stick their dicks in the various hose-based accessories. It’s kind of the same thing as a story of kids getting kidnapped get a lot more play than the stories of kids who don’t get kidnapped. Children are, at least according to the statistics I’ve seen, safer now than they were during the golden ages of years past when kids played in the streets all day and night and befriended magic hoboes who taught them important life lessons and told them where to find secret hobo treasure. But all we hear about are the kids who get abducted, so people assume that there’s some creepy, candy-besotted stranger with a windowless Astro van around every corner.
I guess my point is this: I’ve never seen a dude fucking a picnic table or humping a pool filter. I don’t think I’m alone in this. Also it’s fun to talk about hoboes.
Either way, the Cracked piece actually gets worse, if that’s possible.
You see this type of story come up a lot -- check your local police blotter. And they all have something in common: They're all guys.
Seriously, do a Google search for "masturbating in public library." Notice something in common with all of those stories? They're all dudes. Obviously I'm not saying women don't pleasure themselves (every single study would prove me a liar); I'm saying that men are far, far more likely to engage in extremely high-risk masturbation in public. They're more likely to do it at work, and they're more likely to do it in situations where they could go to jail.
No, it's not some rare, weird exhibitionist fetish, either. It's that they can't even wait the couple of hours it'd take to do it safely at home.
I can’t believe that I have to be the one to explain this, but here goes: women are fully capable of masturbating in public. Chances are that they do it, too. Possibly as often as men. Women, however, have a distinct technological advantage in the public masturbation arms race: they don't have penises.
I’m given to understand – and any women who happen to stop by can feel free to correct me if I’m wrong, since god knows I have absolutely no business acting like I know anything whatsoever about the secret functioning of ladyparts – that it’s entirely possible for a woman to stimulate herself without drawing much attention to the act whatsoever. If I’m correct in my understanding it requires a hell of a lot less work than whipping out a six-inch meat log and furiously stroking it for thirty seconds. That’s kind of an attention-getter. And it’s rather hard to disguise as some other, more innocent activity.
All that aside, especially if it turns out I’m wrong (although, really, what the hell else are kegel exercises for? Again, I have ZERO expertise in the area of ladyparts. And I’m pretty sure that that’s gonna cost me a man card. Here, have a dozen. They’re good for ten cents off a coffee at your local Caribou franchise as long as you get the daily trivia question right), what the fuck does, “Some dude decided to stick his dick in a picnic table,” have to do with, “Women try to control men through their penises?” I don’t know if anyone else has ever noticed this, but while a woman can be many things, a picnic table isn’t one.[3] Let’s go see what the reason is that these two totally unrelated things are absolutely related, shall we?
It's because, in males more so than females, the sex drive is completely detached from the rest of the personality. The part of the male brain that worries about job security or money or social reputation or legal consequences has almost no veto power over the sex drive. You've heard guys say they were "thinking with their dick" or "I was thinking with the little brain" or "I took an order from Captain Bonerhelmet." That's what they're referring to.
Bullshit.
Bull. Shit.
Bull. Fucking. Shit.
That’s the old…
Wait, hold on, I don’t think you got the point yet.
Buuuuuuuuuuullllllll. Sheeeeeeeeit.
There we go. Anyway, back to the post.
That’s the old “boys will be boys” excuse. Us poor men are led about by our penises and just can’t do a damn thing about it. So, really, when you think about it, we should get a cookie and a pat on the head for every time we don’t beat off in public or rape a woman who’s just trying to get a $20 at the ATM. Because men just can’t be expected to think about the consequences, like when we buy $3,000 TVs when we’ve got an upcoming down payment on a house to think about.
And, hey, lookit that. I'm up to four pages and I’m not even warmed up yet. Looks like this one’s about to become a two-parter.
Sorry.
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[1]That said, I now want to go to Fort Worth and sit on the sidewalk on Berry Street across from the TCU campus, since getting some Fuzzy’s curb tacos sounds totally dirty.
[2]I have several. If you’d like to hear them it will cost you a curb taco. And, yes, I’ve decided to make “curb taco” an integral part of my lexicon.
[3]Unless you’re at one of those crazy-ass sushi places that serves the food on a naked lady. At that point a woman is pretty much a picnic table.
I dunno, Geds. While it would certainly be possible for me to masturbate in public without actually exposing myself (thus committing a crime), it's hard to hide the heavy breathing and excessive perspiration. Someone would almost certainly figure out what I was doing with the hand in that pocket.
I think, more to the point, it would be easier for a woman to recover gracefully from being caught in the act. Any witness would probably find it more strange than alarming. Women are not as easily cast in the roll of rapist/sex offender as men are. The privilege flows the other way there. If a man accused a woman of masturbating in public, it would undoubtedly backfire upon him, and he would be the one demonized in the headlines. And I doubt a female witness would feel comfortable making a scene over it.
So if a women did get caught, it would be about as incriminating as being caught eating a booger or picking a wedgie. Unsightly, embarrassing, but not terribly threatening. It won't make the police blotter, let alone the evening news. My guess is that in public restrooms and private vehicles, masturbating males and females are probably about equally guilty. And the exceptionally few women who get caught in the wide open are probably just not reported, unlike their male counterparts.
Posted by: Janet | 03/30/2012 at 09:05 PM
Oh, and the Kegel exercises are so that you can push a baby out without prolapsing your uterus. They're about as much fun as crunches.
Posted by: Janet | 03/30/2012 at 09:12 PM
I think you should be asking what this says about you instead of what Cracked guy is trying to say about all men and women. That's the only way I can comment on this honestly without being completely inappropriate for a public forum.
Posted by: The Everlasting Dave | 03/30/2012 at 10:24 PM
Dude, this is one of the Internet's least public forums...
Posted by: Geds | 03/30/2012 at 10:38 PM
Fair enough. What I was gonna say was, I'm heavily medicated in part to curb my sex addiction, and I'm still hornier than you. You bring a different perspective to these issues, that's for sure, but... well... I think you have a credibility issue on this subject.
Posted by: The Everlasting Dave | 03/31/2012 at 02:30 PM
So, are you're saying that only people who have no self-control have the credibility to speak on the subject of self-control?
Or are you saying that David Wong is correct, due to the fact that I am the only male on the planet who has self-control and every other man is David Duchovny or Charlie Sheen?
Or, alternatively, are you saying that my self-control is due to the fact that I have an unusually low sex drive?
For the record, all of these things are wrong. What you're doing is engaging in special pleading, and saying that I have nothing valid to say because I lack Important Quality A, which in this case is "sex addiction." That would matter if I were literally the only man on the planet who is not a sex addict.
Now, the fact of the matter is that both you and David Wong are basically attempting to make that argument. In his case it goes, "Men hate women because men are sex addicts and we blame women for setting off our addiction." The fact that he also lumps the group of "men" who are already connected to the group of "sex addicts" in with the group of "public park table humpers" means that he's arguing that 100% of men everywhere are a sideboob away from fucking the topiary.
My argument is that, yes, there is a sub set of men who are sex addicts. There is also a sub set of men who are public masturbaters/picnic table humpers. But that doesn't mean that every man is and it doesn't have to mean that every man has to be one. Moreover, it also completely ignores the possibility (nay, probability) that there's a roughly equal percentage of WOMEN who are sex addicts and/or random inanimate object humpers. The primary difference would be that the women are less likely to get caught due to the nature of the plumbing. This works equally for the relatively greater subtlety of the act of masturbation and the fact that women don't have a thing to get stuck in other things. And unless they're dumb enough to stick an umbrella up their vagina and then accidentally hit the release button they're probably not as likely to find themselves in a compromising situation from which they cannot extricate themselves.
Posted by: Geds | 03/31/2012 at 03:26 PM
I'm not saying any of those things. I'm not going to speak to your sex drive because I'm not inside your head, but I do think you need to recognize that (for whatever reason) you're coming at this from a much different perspective than most guys would. I'm not saying every guy is Charlie Sheen, but I am saying that, as a guarded person, your strongest impulses are toward self-control. I don't think that's as common as you think it is. Just like the best drug counselors are recovering addicts, an intellectual understanding of this issue is useless without experience and empathy. The part I specifically objected to was that you don't think the sex drive is disconnected from other aspects of the personality, and you dismissed that as bullshit. It's true in varying degrees from person to person, and the people who are ruled by it are the minority, but there's absolutely truth to it. It's not an excuse at all; it's just what happens. No reasonable person would think "I have a raging hardon" is a valid reason for whipping it out and beating like mad on a city bus, but like any other base human need, it can reach a point where rationality doesn't factor in. Even before I was medicated I could usually control myself in public, but I have empathy for those who choose not to. The fact that you deny the phenomenon outright just strikes me as wrong.
Your point about women is a sound one, though. I've seen women have orgasms hands-free, so you're actually right on with that. Clits are awesome. I kind of wish I had one.
Posted by: The Everlasting Dave | 03/31/2012 at 05:05 PM
Um, Dave, it might help you to remember that I have a tendency to interact with far more people than you do on a daily basis and that the men tend to fit in the category of "adult males with careers and families and whatnot." And believe you me, their level of self-control is far closer to mine than it is to Charlie Sheen's.
So perhaps you need to consider the possibility that it's your perspective that's skewed. Or, at the very least, that my perspective isn't as uncommon as you seem to think.
Posted by: Geds | 03/31/2012 at 05:09 PM
That's a fair point and all, but it's self-evident and nobody's arguing it. People in your situation, or people with a spouse and kids-- what do they have to gain by letting their freak flag fly? Practically nothing aside from a cheap thrill every now and then. What do they have to lose? A livelihood, maybe a partner or children, a car, a house. All you're saying is that people with normal lives do normal things. The people I know and associate with these days have usually already lost everything, and just because they have different priorities doesn't mean they don't exist. People who have hit bottom, or are on the way there, really don't give a shit if someone thinks they're weird, and once they're past the whole repression thing, they tend to be pretty open about things. I know for a fact that skews my perspective, but you're talking about a lack of freaky-deakies in polite society. That's the point I'm trying to make- unless I'm completely misreading you, you're talking about a subset of people who are among the least likely in the country to engage in reckless and impulsive behavior, and even less likely to discuss it openly if they do. So no, they're probably not going to be self-indulgent hedonists. And no, your boss is probably not going to miss work on Monday because his wang is caught in a pop machine, but what exactly does that prove? That environment is only one segment of society, and it's got its own set of expected behaviors and attitudes. I mean, office culture pretty much invented political correctness, which is the polar opposite of the behavior we're discussing here. There are plenty of places and social groups that don't have the same values.
Posted by: The Everlasting Dave | 03/31/2012 at 06:26 PM
Okay, I see the problem here. We're having an argument over semantics, plain and simple. You're arguing against an argument than I never made.
The author of the original piece made an absolute claim, to wit: "The part of the male brain that worries about job security or money or social reputation or legal consequences has almost no veto power over the sex drive." He was using this as an explanatory mechanism for why dudes get caught porkin' picnic tables and then going on to make another (relatively, perhaps) absolute claim that all men are incapable of thinking of anything other than sex and will be totally derailed in the presence of cleavage.
That was what I was calling bullshit on. He made an absolute claim that "all men possess Quality A." In calling bullshit all I have to do is point out that Quality Not-A exists. This does not, however, set up a competing absolute claim that there is no such thing as Quality A.
I'm simply saying that to say men have no agency over their sex drive is a cop out and blatantly wrong. If you know enough men you will know at least some who do have control. Those tend to be the men who manage to put themselves in a situation where they have something to lose by sticking their wang in a drinking fountain. Part of it is a sense of drive and purpose, part of it is that they realize that a vaguely dick-sized hole does not necessarily require the insertion of a dick because, seriously, it's a goddamn drinking fountain.
So, basically, what I'm saying is, "Men who can control themselves exist and people who claim otherwise are simply giving cover for bad behavior." What I am not saying is, "I exist, therefore Charlie Sheen doesn't."
But, y'know, I'd been intending to leave the discussion of the larger ramifications of a world based on the original, incorrect absolute claim for part 2 of my sudden 2-parter. Apparently I made the snip in the wrong place.
Posted by: Geds | 03/31/2012 at 07:18 PM
"a vaguely dick-sized hole does not necessarily require the insertion of a dick[.]"
Well now you've just fucking lost me.
Posted by: The Everlasting Dave | 03/31/2012 at 07:42 PM